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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 5, 2005 10:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: THE GREAT LOST GRATEFUL DEAD

Jerry Garcia showed up, guitar in hand, ready to play, bill, Phil right; Weir be Ron?
P & G meet drummer, the story told, and?
in a fraction; his serenity, beatitude, merely shattered. Just like a woman, a great man is at his saddest moment, though he's too much a part of that moment to know the significance, or does he... it is barely the sublime crack of dusk, and the ruin of not just a day, or he who had to die, but even the flower, the spirit of a generation, one toke over the line is not yet obvious and it will be a few more hours before it irrevocably crashes, pouring it's inner light into ashes... after the dust settles it's a hit and the fame game gets Weir. Chase the tragic dragon, have a touch of gray.
Nothing is real any way, danny boy, your Pig Pen blues touch of gray. It's all on you.
Yes I know you're falling, and walking away from the Time for Uncle John to play Him, playing in the band.
Eyes follows Jerry turning for the first time toward the camera lens... and his cheshire cat grin turns to what it will become, from now on. a skull-like grimace, a loss of sparkle.
You know he isn't the same... you see a broken heart, on the Dead End, carry the weight 2 more monkees taking you back Further than Bobby - Dylan is singin' with Phil him in Jerry , out one day on the last freeway down America's roads run Choclolate George, Pig Pen Kesey and Cassidy, so long gone to be found in sound... no more cryptical envelopements or other ones will be written or sung with gusto... so break out the canon Dylan for the ages, our heroes have faded
the vision of morning dew woke up
it was Chelsea and the first thing makes you choke on the dust of life as hooks decay, you're not being born, fade away never again... never coming back... never more. now, you're gone. I can't walk you out, not before the dawn.
"Oh, bummer."
Speedway kills. Unless someone heavy TELLS THOSE CATS TO COOL IT MAN.
This is the show of shows where Jerry doesn't sing. And it would have been his greatest moment, the moment of truth. Was he or wasn't he the great one? Pig Pen would have been there and shared the darkness, Jerry had a friend... what a wrong strange trip to back down, right then.... what, you got a glass jaw?
IIt dotn't mean a thing when ya ain't got that thing to sing about - it's all over but the slow death: the scene, endured so many crushing blows, just to lay down my dear brither and die.
No hammer blow delivered by a thin rod upon the Camel's back - no lamb to the slaughter, no further, knock on Raven's door to nevermore, nothing is left in it's wake the bflood is late and we see it evaporate, this is nothing, this vacuum, this death this mortal coil shall too unravel and resolve itself with a chill in the air this night in the light... nothing was delivered all lost, because the Dead could have played, and would have made a true difference...it should have been analtogether a different ending... but no Dead, no living... a bad trade, a burn, this darkness...
ONE WAY, or.... another.... it's got to end.
Good times gone, and nothing new to say and a heavy load was destined from that sign post up ahead was just gonna bring a generation back to the abyss of their own hubris and excess...
Laugh, but not for several hours at the very least, twas a lull in the celebration but...

the music never stopped...So, we watch as Jerry doesn't stand up and what, Play? Sing? What if he had, and not wandered away on that particular day. Who can say? Who can? WHO...
Could or should he have? Cryptical Envelopement? Doing That Rag? Cozmic Charlie? Dire Wolf? Death Don't Have No Mercy? And So We Leave The Castle? Perhaps an hour or so of intensely shrill Feedback with simulated police cars and baby cries? And finally, Whatever Became Of The Baby? The ideal venue for this rarely if ever played song...

He did get a song out of being stuck in the bus near the "action" where the band sat there observing life and death from a window, taking in as much as could be stomached.

"We've had enough of being polite, get out, go away... There are a number of people on or around this stage who should not be here. Consequently, the musicians on this stage are playing with something like, 200 people breathing down their necks... now can I please ask that everyone leaves the stage, and we'll go back to playing music and nothing else. The Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Airplane."

Now after that warm welcome not one person moves offstage, except for Marty Balin, who comes to, later that Saturday Afternoon, not sure who in particular made all these boot heel indents on his chest and face. He wasn't conscious at the time.

Sometimes it's better not to know.
Mister Cutler told me so...


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Poster: Fishead Date: Jun 8, 2005 11:45pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: THE GREAT LOST GRATEFUL DEAD

just wondering

did you use to post over at the deadbase forums?

before they were shut down by trolls....

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 10, 2005 5:36am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: THE GREAT LOST GRATEFUL DEAD

No, I never posted at the deadbase forums...

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Poster: DEADBUCK Date: Jun 5, 2005 11:29pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: THE GREAT LOST GRATEFUL DEAD

what r u saying?

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 6, 2005 12:00am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: THE GREAT LOST GRATEFUL DEAD

Tell me all that you know, and I'll show you the rain and the ode...
First, yiou must read an equvilent Harvard education, and you'll know what not I'm talking about, but what YOU'RE talking about.
Try it, read 12 French authors books this month,. forget about this, you'll advance your little mind to the next level and won't need me anymore.
Or, isn't Jerry Springer on?

Just kidding about that!

Just git it! I did!

OK, here, the earlier thread, I took a detour.. it was "What show did Jerry Not sing at?"

and, I was watching Gimmee Shelter, the restoration remix.

OK?

Just wondering, what If?
What IF Grateful Dead, like their friends, hadn't packed it in...
and PLAYED Altamont.

After all, weren't the Angels a bit more respectful of Pig Pen and Jerry?
And the audience on some bad acid?

Hey, we could take this as far as you want to go, but it's all conjecture, and I'm asking YOU.
What do YOU think.;
I'm serious. I'm using a tinker toy key board, and can spell, but not type too well on this iBook, but have a cawfee and watch Gimmee Shelter... Jerry and Phil are in it... and they are Books...
I was putting in actual Sam Cutler quotes and what not - didn't you know I was riffing on Belli?

A little Keef?
Richard that is?
Hmm?



This post was modified by cream-puff-war on 2005-06-06 07:00:42

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jun 6, 2005 12:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead- pointer to DNC discussion

Hi Puff, this is a much more general discussion venue that typically concerns 1000+ bands and their downloads, not just for stuff about the Dead and its members. Your Dead scene-specific reminiscences would find a much more eager audience at "Dead Net Central" aka DNC at http://dead.net instead. I bet it'll feel like home for you over there. :)

Meanwhile as we've seen in the past, too many Dead/Jerry-centric posts here will make fans of other bands here start to feel prickly.

(Oh BTW drjoek I accidentally deleted your prickly post during a li'l cleanup, sorry. Might as well *not* repost it though, eh? ;) )

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-06-06 07:07:01

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 6, 2005 12:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead- pointer to DNC discussion

I believe I deleted it myself, and cleaned up another.

I will stop posting if it bothers you at ball, as I thought you all were the Dead centered with threads like What Show Jerry doesn't sing...
and tons of Dick Picks... not my main interest at all, but love the '60s music the Dead too, Cipollina, of corse the Flamin' Groovies, all the
garage bands just about, people argue on line, it's in a box, and if they're sincere and respectful, a bit of snap can be absorbed,l and learned from, not to be just in the company of Dead heads, no thank you, Deadnet is very limited collection, and I have thousands of hours of 60s music, hundreds of dead hours, and love the selection here, let's be cool, no offense meant, none taken,
I'm a biit eccentric, but have lots of interests, and share - not a stalker, scammer or seller on this site... just have interests in discussions that might exchange thoughts, and so forth, and waxing poetic, well, my main interest is combining '60s best unknown underappreciated with really striking imagesd, as writing is not my great strength or a popular interest in the pop culture right now...

but just saying take a deep breath, and this is a great site, been listen ing a year now and it's pouring out of me, all that stuff, including the New Riders and Copperhead, some of the new bluegrass too...
I uploaded 3 not for sale authorised to share Magic Christian new songs, canyou or someone help turn them into uploadable/downloadble format herein?

Please, and thanks


Cream P

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jun 6, 2005 12:35am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead- pointer to DNC discussion

as I thought you all were the Dead centered with threads like What Show Jerry doesn't sing... and tons of Dick Picks...

Ah yes, so I expect you perceive the unhappy potential for a possible overdose of additional Dead/family posts all at once. Best let the existing ones simmer down a while and not add more to the pot.

I'm thinking of a hapless say, Maroon5, Fugazi, Jack Johnson, Man Or Astroman? or Blue Merle fan who might saunter by and think this is not a welcome place for them...

I uploaded 3 not for sale authorised to share Magic Christian new songs, canyou or someone help turn them into uploadable/downloadble format herein?

If they're a few tracks, the rightsholder could probably upload those into the Open Source Audio collection, see
http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?collection=opensource_audio
and "Get Upload Information" there:
http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-contribute.php?stage=upload_info

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-06-06 07:35:52

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 6, 2005 4:25am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead- pointer to DNC discussion

Have you any unknown new bands that are playing garage punk?
Like say The Loons, The Brood, The Cynics... there probably hundreds with a great sound and snarl, and might even be nice people who use forks and knives....
now if we show are plates are for....

Yeah, I was the door man at the crazed Purple Onion, Sky Saxon and the Jaqpanese group seen in Kill Bill played there, the 54321s, fantastic scenegoin on all over the world now,
it's almost perverse to focus in on the Dead, but I hoped my little piece The Lost Grate DEead would put them at their nadir, leaving their phony friends like Paul Kantner in the lurch...
just so typical, Pigpen was a cool cat, but the others?
Real uh, I do like Creamk Puff War... that 1st LP.
And here you have manhy different things - as far as music, a limited asmount of other rare '60s or a huge giant amount of Dead shows, and almost all the posts discussing Dead products, mostly new ones, it's easy to see why I thought you all could get hip, it's not ONLY dead, and thankis for having early raw pre-Lombardo New Years Champagne era Dead, and Bear is right, many other bands came out of SF acid era, Mystrey Trend, Autosalvage, Flamin Groovies (now Magic Christian, very rockin' Psych with a vengeance, and real emotion too, human), but 50 Foot Hose, Blue Cheer and Other Half, Sons of Adam... I mean, don't get me started... so many, and costs a lot to collect if you haven't already beenj scoopin' for the last 20 years at least, so that stuff has a few yahoo groups and internet radio stations,l mkaybe I'LL start one when the images get easier to upload... like what KOKAINEKIP does, but takes up so much room and memory, but he's on to making it exciting now, whole videos with rare stereo trackls synched, and rare weird little commercials laced with ideas for cutting up and mashing Revolver with The Jam, that new recycling art music, when it works its good... psychotic good, but keep it goin kids,
the Revolution is here again, we're going round the cash cow system... they're dying, as everyuone is splitting to do they're own smaller audience but FREE trip,

this IS the new underground, way ahead of the clear channel and they don't know they will go under when, as all the Dicks Picks posts or so some say, but nothing people find they're favorite year or month and move on much faster and without someone else editing for you, what Dead is best, hey, that does change, from minute to minute even... how is a traditional record plant going to keep up with the lightning fast tastes now that we sample anytime, anywhere, finally... listeners are getting the smarts mto fill their heads with hundreds of bands, not just ten or even 40 force fed.

We garage dwellers hqave been doing that, for years checking thousands of unknown killer DIY bands... and taken it up again, and evolving from there... the top 1000 there are cvountless "new" oldies the oldies stations never play, and we do - nwe left them behind so long... the real stuff is everywhere...
and nowhere, baby... I mean, Diana!
Good luck, you live a charming life...
Going places,
Love Conquers all.

I'll lay off onposting for a while, time out the simmers, OK!
Like,
PUFF..->

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jun 6, 2005 4:44am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Garage punk/DIY

Have you any unknown new bands that are playing garage punk?... unknown killer DIY bands...

Paging Aaron Parker for advice... InfiniteOhms to white courtesy phone, please! :)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffInfiniteOhms Date: Jun 6, 2005 5:23am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Garage punk/DIY

Most of what i'm taping these days I would consider to be DIY Punk, so you can allways search under my name (infiniteohms) for newer stuff.

Old-ish Punk Stuff
http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?cat=fIREHOSE
http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?cat=Minutemen


Loud Punk Stuff (AKA Hardcore-punk)
(sadly this stuff can be pretty hard to tape, so there isn't that much i feel is worth posting)
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15428
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=pinko2004-08-12.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=ato2004-07-29.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=sov2004-07-29.flac16

Folk Punk (stuff in the vien of plan-it-x records)
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=rosa2004-07-19.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=bar2004-09-02.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=kimya2005-01-09.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=gmice2004-05-20.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=mbrew2005-04-24.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details-db.php?mediatype=etree&identifier=jhatft2005-03-03.flac16
http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?collection=etree&cat=Against%20Me%21

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 5, 2005 11:32pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: THE GREAT LOST GRATEFUL DEAD

i really couldnt figure that one out either. maybe not enough coffee in my system yet.

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